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IM Interview: Dr. Thomas Bywater on Marilyn’s Acting Career

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Dr. Timothy Bywater is a respected professor at Dixie State University with a PH.D. in English and Film. He was kind enough to sit down with staff writer, April VeVea, to discuss Marilyn’s impact on the film industry and her quest for an Oscar.

 

Q – Marilyn was very much put in the box of typecasting. How do you think this affected her career?

A – Let me say this, I think more than typecasting in film she was typecast as a human being. It destroyed her life. It’s beyond her career. I don’t think (typecasting) destroyed her career, it destroyed her life. She was typecast in her life. I think her roles are brilliant. I think as nasty as Hollywood was, the roles they gave her, she did a wonderful job.

 

How did other actresses overcome typecasting?

I don’t think any of them overcame it in the 50’s. I think in the 60’s when the studio system began to be destroyed, it changed, but I think up until then there were brilliant roles and brilliant women doing them but I think the whole system was pretty well typecast.

 

Do you think Marilyn’s reliance on “The Method” affected her career?

I think the whole system of dealing with her was so cynical. I think it was just people who were hangers-on, including The Actor’s Studio. I think she was above that. I think she was just brilliant as an actress. I think she affected The Method more than The Method affected her.

 

What would you have handled her career differently?

No. I think she mesmerized men. I think men tried to control her and I don’t think they could.

 

Bette Davis famously lost her contract dispute with Warner Brothers in 1937, while Olivia De Havilland won her case in 1943 which led to actresses not being able to sign for more than seven years. Marilyn fought with Fox from 1953-1956 and won director, co-star, and picture approval. How do you think this affected other actresses?

I think the times and the studio system affected them. I think the best thing an actor or actress can do is choose a good director and choose a good product. Some of them act like big shots but I don’t think Marilyn used it that way. Marilyn used it (to get) roles that exactly fit what she was good at. Marilyn was dumb as a fox. The studio system was trying to gain power but ended up losing it.

 

Do you think this hurt Marilyn’s career?

Yes, no doubt about it.

 

There are three performances that tend to stand out to Marilyn Monroe fans as being Oscar worthy. They are Bus Stop, Some Like It Hot, and The Misfits. What is your opinion on her chances of winning compared to the nominees and winners from those years?

 

Marilyn as Cherie in Bus Stop

Marilyn as Cherie in Bus Stop

1957 Oscar – Bus Stop

Ingrid Bergman (Anastasia)

Carroll Baker (Baby Doll)

Katherine Hepburn (The Rain Maker)

Nancy Kelly (The Bad Seed)

Deborah Kerr (The King and I)

That’s a tough group. That’s a really tough group. It almost seems to me that Bus Stop wasn’t in the same category as some of these, Baby Doll for example. It should have been Marilyn in Baby Doll. She could have had that part, potentially, but she was too seasoned for that part. Ingrid Bergman should have won every year. If Marilyn could have been Ingrid with how Bergman dealt with things she would have been Ingrid as an actress. She would have had a lot of roles. (Note – The 1957 Oscars were Bergman’s return to Hollywood after being ostracized for having an affair. This was considered her glorious return to Hollywood and there was little to no chance of any nominee beating Bergman)

 

Conclusion: Wouldn’t have won based off of the other nominees but gave a glorious performance.

 

Marilyn as Sugar in Some Like it Hot.

Marilyn as Sugar in Some Like it Hot.

1960 Oscar – Some Like It Hot

Simone Signoret (Room on Top)

Doris Day (Pillow Talk)

Audrey Hepburn (The Nun’s Story)

Katherine Hepburn and Liz Taylor (Suddenly Last Summer)

 

She wasn’t nominated for Some Like It Hot at all? That should have been “Best Actress” for sure. That’s ridiculous. That’s a travesty that Marilyn wasn’t nominated.

 

Conclusion: Marilyn should have been nominated and should have won.

 

Marilyn as Roslyn in The Misfits.

Marilyn as Roslyn in The Misfits.

1961 Oscar – The Misfits

Sophia Loren (Two Women)

Audrey Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany’s)

Piper Laurie (The Hustler)

Geraldine Page (Summer and Smoke)

Natalie Wood (Splendor in the Grass)

Breakfast at Tiffany’s should have been Marilyn Monroe. I don’t know The Misfits so I can’t make that decision but I can’t believe she wasn’t nominated for that either. I think she should have been nominated every year. She was in that category of actresses.

 

Conclusion: Undetermined

 

In 1955 Marilyn followed in the footsteps of Alice Guy-Blanche, Lois Weber, Mary Pickford, Marion Fairfax, Dorothy Azner, and other trailblazing women and started her own production company. Do you think this ended up adversely affecting her career?

The only thing I can think of is that it alienated Marilyn Monroe more from the acting community, from standard Hollywood.

 

Marilyn frequently worked with “A” list leading men, notable Clark Gable and Laurence Olivier. Gable demanded to do his own stunts while Olivier thought “The Method” was unnecessary yet Marilyn is labeled as the difficult one. What do you think her co stars aren’t held to the same scrutiny?

Why don’t women make as much money as men in the marketplace? It’s just treatment of women across the board. Men are afraid of women. Men run the system, men are afraid of women, so they keep them in their place.

 

Marilyn’s legacy continues with stars today citing her as an influence. Why do you think her legacy has endured?

None of them can hold her hem. What they’ve done is caricatured her and that’s taking away from her. She’s different than most great actresses. I think her legacy has endured for the wrong reasons. (Other actresses) are allowed to let their true value shine through but Marilyn isn’t allowed to do that.

90 Marvelous Marilyn Moments!

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In celebration of Marilyn Monroe’s 90th birthday, Immortal Marilyn presents our favorite 90 Marilyn Moments!  From the well-known to those that are less publicized….here are 90 moments that made Marilyn….Marilyn.

 

  1. That time her Travilla dress flew up as the subway went by and made history.
  2. The time she performed Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend so well Darryl Zanuck had to convince people it really was her singing.
  3. The time she performed nearly a dozen shows for troops in Korea, rendering her own self ill with pneumonia as a result of performing in the cold in a spaghetti strap dress.Marilyn Monroe in Korea
  4. The time she married one of America’s greatest sports stars…Joe DiMaggio
  5. That time she refused to be embarrassed by the calendar scandal, when the world found out she’d posed nude, and simply said “I needed the money”.
  6. That time she become one of a few women in history up until then to form her own production company, Marilyn Monroe Productions
  7. When she made history for the longest scene of a woman walking away up until that moment, as she strolled away  from the camera in Niagara.
  8. That time she starred in one of the top-rated movies of all time, Some Like It Hot
  9. When she hilariously toasted President Taft in The Prince and the Showgirl.
  10. When she started a Heat Wave by performing it in There’s No Business Like Show Business.
  11. That time she sang Happy Birthday, Mr. President and made history (again).
  12. When she rode into Madison Square Garden on a pink elephant for charity.
  13. When she returned to Hollywood triumphant to film Bus Stop, a movie she actually wanted to make.
  14. The time she married one of America’s greatest playwrights, Arthur Miller.
  15. The time she won Best Actress at the Golden Globes for Some Like It Hot.Marilyn's Golden Globe for Some Like it Hot
  16. The time she won World Film Favorite at the 1962 Golden Globes.
  17. When she arrived in England to film a movie and set off a press frenzy.
  18. That time she was the Miss Universe parade Grand Marshall.
  19. When she arrived looking like the most glamorous movie star ever at the How To Marry a Millionaire premiere
  20. When she showed up sick and exhausted to smile for a charity event on her 36th birthday, June 1, 1962, at Dodger Stadium.
  21. The time she filmed a nude swimming pool scene for Something’s Got to Give and made headlines.
  22. That time she told the Marx Brothers men kept following her, and we all knew why.
  23. When she filmed her Oscar-worthy close-ups for Bus Stop and blew the critics away,
  24. That time she arrived at the Photoplay awards in the gold lame dress and the press lost their minds.
  25. The time her spaghetti strap broke at a press conference for The Prince and the Showgirl and the press lost their minds…again.
  26. The time band leader Ray Anthony threw a party for her and debuted a song about her.
  27. Her first Life magazine cover in 1952.
  28. The time she was invited to open the Lincoln museum in Bement, Illinois, and judged a beard contest.Marilyn judges a beard contest
  29. That time she arrived at the premiere of The Rose Tattoo and posed for pictures with the iconic Marlon Brando.
  30. That time she met the Queen of England.
  31. When she received David di Donatello Award from Italy for acting in The Prince and the Showgirl.
  32. …and then won the French Crystal Star for the same role.
  33. The time she got Ella Fitzgerald a gig at the Mocambo club in Los Angeles.
  34. When she posed for the Fabled Enchantresses series for Richard Avedon and Marilyn was lost in the amazing transformation into actresses past.
  35. The time she rocked the March of Dimes fashion show and charity event.
  36. When she placed her hand and footprints at Graumann’s Chinese Theatre, becoming a solid part of Hollywood history.
  37. That time she kicked off the ball at an Ebbets Field soccer game.
  38. The time she rocked a potato sack dress to show up her critics.
  39. When she blew everyone away at the Seven Year Itch Premiere in NYC.
  40. The time she presented an Oscar.
  41. When she appeared on the Jack Benny Show.
  42. When she defended her decision to leave Hollywood on the Person to Person show.
  43. When she appeared on the classic Charlie McCarthy show.
  44. When she was a part of the Oscar-winning classic film All About Eve
  45. When she was photographed lifting weights and once again proved she was ahead of her time.
  46. That time she was the first Playboy cover and centerfold and launched a dynasty..
  47. When she posed in a bathing suit and crutches during filming of River of No Return and proved even crutches can look good.Marilyn Monroe on crutches in a bikini
  48. When she walked into walls with perfect timing, playing the blind Pola who won’t wear glasses in How to Marry a Millionaire.
  49. When she starred with iconic actor Clark Gable in The Misfits.
  50. When she was photographed eating hot dogs and splashing in fountains in New York.
  51. When she won the 1952 Henrietta Award – technically her first Golden Globe.
  52. When she was an Usherette for Baby Doll and everyone wanted to be shown to their seats.
  53. When she lost her earring at The Prince and the Showgirl premiere and Ed Sullivan could not get it back on.
  54. That time she showed the world she was still on top at the Some Like it Hot premiere.
  55. The time a party was thrown for her and The Seven Year Itch at Romanoff’s, and Marilyn was officially a star.
  56. That time she outshone everyone at Walter Winchell’s birthday party.
  57. Her first starring role in Ladies of the Chorus, when she saw her name in lights.
  58. When she showed she was a force to be reckoned with at the Don’t Bother to Knock Premiere.
  59. When she posed on the USS Bennington.
  60. The time she supported Arthur Miller against The House Un-American Activities Committee.
  61. When she defied the odds and started studying at the famed Actor’s Studio
  62. When she refused to be forced into making How To Be Very, Very Popular, defying Fox, and winning.
  63. When she refused to continue to be a studio pawn and moved to New York, and won…AGAIN.
  64. When she spoke out for civil rights and equality in her final interview
  65. That time she posed with some bears in the Canadian Rockies and blew away her image.Marilyn Monroe with black bears in Canada,
  66. When she sang “I Wanna Be Loved By You” and rocked it.
  67. When she was named Artichoke Queen.
  68. The time she became the first major American star to speak out about childhood sexual abuse.
  69. When she defied the odds in her career and made The Misfits with Clark Gable, an artistic film featuring Hollywood greats.
  70. When she starred opposite one of the greatest actors in history, Sir Laurence Olivier.
  71. That time she wrote a $10,000 check to an orphanage in Mexico after tearing up a $1000 one.
  72. When she caught the press with dropped jaws by saying she sleeps in Chanel No 5, of course.
  73. When she happily posed with African-American children in the heart of segregation.
  74. When she refused to be misquoted in interviews.
  75. That time she tried to save the birds in New York by paying kids to set them free.
  76. When she wrote sweet letters in the voice of Hugo the Bassett Hound to her step-children.
  77. When she was among those who attended a dinner for Nikita Khrushchev at Fox, and declared it “interesting”.
  78. When she outshone wonder of the world Niagara Falls in movie stills.
  79. When she starred in the first Cinemascope production to be completed (although the Robe was released first).
  80. Every single time she stopped to sign an autograph for a fan, no matter what was going on.Marilyn sings autographs for fans.
  81. That time an enormous image of Marilyn rose above a New York Theatre to promote The Seven Year Itch.
  82. The time she wowed the Mexican press in 1962.
  83. When she attended Yankees Spring training like it was no big deal, just Marilyn Monroe.
  84. Every single iconic Milton Greene photoshoot.
  85. That Bert Stern Vogue photoshoot where she showed she was more than just our Marilyn Monroe.
  86. That time she made Emilio Pucci a household name.
  87. When she wore jeans before it was popular.
  88. When she played a deranged babysitter before anyone saw her as a dumb blonde in Don’t Bother to Knock.
  89. How she made the Rat Pack look even cooler than anyone thought was possible.

 

 

90. That day in 1926 when she was born….Happy Birthday Marilyn!

Marilyn at the Seven Year Itch premiere, her 29th birthday

Julien’s Announces Historic Auction of David Gainsborough-Roberts’ Marilyn Collection

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Not since the Christie’s auction of Marilyn’s estate in 1999 has there been a collection of Marilyn items up for bids quite like the one Julien’s has set for November of this year.

Julien's 2016The auction, featuring items from David Gainsborough-Roberts’ incredible and extensive collection of Marilyn’s clothing and personal items, will go on exhibit in England and Ireland before it heads over the ocean to hit the block.  The collection includes such famous items as Marilyn’s black sequined cocktail dress worn in Some Like It Hot to sing “I’m Through With Love”, as well as dresses and accessories from most of her other starring roles, including Niagara, There’s No Business Like Show Business, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, and Bus Stop.

Also included are pieces from Marilyn’s personal wardrobe, such as the Ceil Chapman gown she wore to the premiere of The Rose Tattoo, household items, correspondence, awards, and much more.

Scott Fortner, another expert collector whose items are currently on exhibit at the Bendigo Art Gallery in Australia, will work with Julien’s  to authenticate and appraise each of the items.

The auction exhibit will open at the Design Centre in London on May 25th, then move to Ireland’s Museum of Style Icons, and finally The Queen Mary 2 in Southampton, England.  It will then move to Los Angeles, where a public exhibit from November 14th-18th will precede the November 19th auction.

Some of the famous costumes in David Gainsborough-Roberts' collection.

Some of the famous costumes in David Gainsborough-Roberts’ collection.

This auction is a huge opportunity for Marilyn fans to see some incredible items and will likely bring in the kind of record-setting numbers Marilyn’s costumes and personal items have seen in the past.  If you can’t make it to the exhibit, a catalog will be available from Julien’s in the near future.

BOOK REVIEW: Marilyn: The Passion and the Paradox by Lois Banner

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Paperback: 528 pages
Publisher: Bloomsbury Paperbacks (1 Aug. 2013)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1408831333
ISBN-13: 978-1408831335

Marilyn Monroe is one of the most chronicled women of the modern age. In the fifty years since her death, she has been a muse to the literary set, and the subject of gossipy exposés. Perhaps what resonates most, though, is her radiant image – captured in a handful of classic movies, and thousands of still photos.

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Preserving Rockhaven Sanatarium – You Can Help!

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Rockhaven Sanatarium is best known to Marilyn fans as the place where Marilyn’s mother, Gladys, lived for many years.  Marilyn was able to provide for Gladys’ stay at Rockhaven from the time that she really began to make it as a star and could afford to cover the fees.  She provided for Gladys continued stay there in her will, allowing her mother to live in comfort in a place designed for women with mental illness.

Gladys (right) at Rockhaven with Inez Melson, who became her guardian after Marilyn’s death.

Rockhaven is more than just the place where Marilyn’s mother lived; it was a unique concept that was born of the need to create a place where women suffering with mental illness could be treated with kindness and compassion.  Founded in 1923 by a psychiatric nurse by the name of Agnes Richards, Rockhaven was a rare sanatarium owned and run by women, for women.

The gates at Rockhaven today.

The beautiful grounds.

 

After decades of treating and caring for women like Gladys, Rockhaven closed in 2006 and has since been in danger of destruction.  The historic importance of the buildings and the stories of the women who founded it, worked there, and lived there are all in danger of being lost to time.

 

Immortal Marilyn is proud to support the work of Friends of Rockhaven, a group dedicated to preserving the buildings and their history.  As part of our support, we are calling on all of our members to join us in a letter-writing petition campaign to the city of Glendale asking them to restore and protect Rockhaven as a place of historical importance.

This is where you come in!  Immortal Marilyn is preparing a letter that you can print off, sign, and send off to City Hall to lend your voice to the effort to save Rockhaven.  All it takes is your signature and a stamp to help us let the Mayor and the city council know that we believe this is a place that deserves to be preserved for future generations.

Download the letter from Google docs here, or contact us for a copy.  Simply fill it out with your name, sign in, and mail it to the address on the letter!

You can visit the Friends of Rockhaven website to learn more about who they are and their work, and you can follow them on Facebook to keep up on the latest news!

Please help us in this important effort to save a historic place!!