Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. Thoughts on a 22 or 23 Barrel in 7mm Rem Mag? I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Most people are getting sub half moa. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Amazing bc too for the weight. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. Mag. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. . Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. Been looking for a while. I went 7SAUM. Full Member. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. ADG Brass. 7RM!! Following since I want to do the exact same thing. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. Mag. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. Muzzle energy means the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the gun. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. . Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. 180-gr. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. Both were introduced in 2001. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you'll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. All rights reserved. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. 22 Nosler. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. Trustpilot. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. Categories The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By The SAUM will be built on a long action. . It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr at the muzzle. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. My vote would be 7RM as well. Minuteman. Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloder 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. Mag. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. This is a long-range dream cartridge for sure. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. This rings home with me. Ive got the same dilemma. ADG 300 PRC Brass. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. without laser assistance. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. Mag. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. This is Not a New Thing. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. ammo. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. $94.95 $79.95. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. If its a hunting rifle does it really matter? Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. Kind of soured me on light bullet's. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. Reactions: Zeroit. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Buy Now. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. Full Member. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. | And heres the same 175-gr. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 12 Gauge 1". The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Long action lone peak. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. JavaScript is disabled. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. JavaScript is disabled. Im in the market to start a new build. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Which one would you choose and why? Regardless what rifle cartridges were initially designed for, they can be perfect for other applications, which suggests the 7mm PRC could be your next do-all big game hunting cartridge. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. loads beautifully, delivering them sub-MOA out to 1,500 yards, then a mile just to say I did it. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. 7mm Rem. JavaScript is disabled. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. for my brand of hunting. Which action are you using and what barrel length? A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. Mag. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. Want to do 24-26 barrel. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . 224 Valkyrie. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. Handloaders can find .284" bullets (the diameter that all 7mm cartridges digest) as light as 100 grains, perfect for pasture rodents, coyotes, and even deer. Absolutely nothing special or difficult about reloading belted cases. factory 7mm Rem. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. I did 7remmag. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . I think the 7saum is here to stay. Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. Varme Hansker for Sykling, Lping og Kjring, Stor kapasitet skulderveskeKjp 2, -10%, 18-i-1 snfnuggformet multiverkty i rustfritt stl, Bilkropp plastnagler festing (150 stk)Kjp 2, -10%. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. Mag. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Mag., the 264 Win. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. All Rights Reserved. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. We use cookies to make your experience better. bullet wins the wind deflection category. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. Going to be used from antelope to elk. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) Any opinions, thoughts, or experiences with either? You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. Actually just today finally found a Redding type s die seton stock. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Buy Now. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. YMMV . These are some impressive numbers. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. The sample Hornady 180-gr. Ban sober drivers from driving. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. How bout building a 280AI. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. Trustpilot. $120.95. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. Those are some impressive numbers. ELD-Match ammo I shot at FTW was rated 2,975 fps on the box. Ballistic twins. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. ADG 28 Nosler. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. But they didnt shorten anything. During processing the large, soft grains are broken down into smaller ones, which makes for a harder material. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. Buy Now. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! .672., MV 2,900 fps. The 28N is very similar to the 7 STW. I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . ADG makes 28 nosler brass for a great option. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. Trustpilot. Both are great rounds. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. &mm PRC. And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . Guys report great brass life with belted cases. Mag. Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. Worth considering. You go long. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. Medium slow burning rifle powders are most appropriate for both of these cartridges. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. And that means more powder. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. and a high B.C. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. Either is good. First, thanks to OP for starting this Thread and to everyone for posting. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). 7mm RemMag. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. The difference might surprise you. Mag. If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. 280AI vs 7 SAUM: two peas in a pod. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. Mag. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. You are using an out of date browser. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Mag. 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