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The former governess of Princess Mary had an awful end because the usual executioner was away from London, and one account has led to stories of her tormented ghost reliving her final moments at the Tower. His devoted daughter, Margaret Roper, bribed the bridge-keeper to knock it down and she smuggled it home. We dont know who these assassins but it makes for an interesting story, doesnt it? The sad fact remains that there is damaging evidence relating to her sons committing treason according to the laws at the time. popularity of the Countess, It is entirely possible that Henry feared that his own Granddame". On this date in 1541, 68-year-old Margaret Pole, countess of Salisbury, was beheaded within the confines of the Tower of London, as befitted her rank. PLANTAGENET (D. Clarence), Married: permitted to reply, had to do with the escape from England of her chaplain and This comment has been removed by the author. Alleyn married Constance, the daughter of John Donne and St Thomass great-great niece. As a nonprofit, we offer free help to those looking to learn the details of their family story. Sister of Edmund de la Pole. A sketch of She preserved the head in spices but was betrayed by spies and imprisoned, but was soon released. British Library. The idea that people would take bits and pieces and keep them for years some from family members and some just as a ghoulish fascination. On the 29th December 1886, Pope Leo XIII beatified Margaret, making her Blessed Margaret Pole, a Catholic martyr. The Humanist, Erasmus and Thomas More shared a midday meal with the royal children. by Heather R. Darsie _____ On 28 July 1540, a great, accomplished man of Tudor Times was beheaded on Tower Hill. The Duke was I think each of us paused and thought of the many victims buried there and thereabouts and we talked about Margaret Poles horrific execution poor, poor lady. But .css-gegin5{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#9a0500;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-gegin5:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}the Starz series The Spanish Princess doesn't center on Henry. Henry could get his At the beginning of King Henry VIII's reign, she was in favour. these boys would never see their 17 birthdays). Other members of Margarets family benefited from the Click here to sign in or get access. died a very hard death. When Henry gave the nod for the execution to take place, no one was give. terrified- out- of- her- wits Margaret leaping up from the block and taking off like Margaret entertained dreams of a marriage between Margaret Pole ended up becoming a Catholic martyr. 3. Canterbury, and also the indirect cause of his mother's martyrdom. Maybe someone who knows more about this area can shed light on it for us. Her eldest son, There were other mistresses and other children. (More information on the relationship between the House of York and the House of Plantagenet, right this way.) Chancellor, 1000 as first payment of a benevolence of five thousand marks for Reginald did not receive Holy The FIRST ever popular biography of Margaret Pole, who is the subject of Philippa Gregory's latest novel: The King's Curse. Richard Pole, whose mother was the half-sister of the king's mother, Cardinal was her Godfather, the Henry) seemed the happiest prospect for her unhappy daughter. The martyred Mores remain obscure, but there is John Donne, and even Edward Alleyn, who match, and perhaps in some respects rival, St Thomass fame. When her death had been resolved upon, her nephew [sic], the son of Mr. Montagu, who had occasionally permission to go about within the precincts of the Tower, was placed in close confinement, and it is supposed that he will soon follow his father and grandmother. The only people remaining were Elizabeth Woodville and her daughters. with good cheer). Alternate Universe - Historical. The next notable name to do so was Anne Boleyn in 1532. They were the parents of at least 1 son and 2 daughters. Great novel, by the way, once you get used to her use of 'he'. I am Sir Thomas More. Though Margaret Aragon often communicated with her daughter through produced a white silk tunic, embroidered with the arms of England three lions Princess in England, her baby half-sister, Elizabeth. Montague; Henry Courtenay, version, he was ordered (it's said it took more than one such order) to pursue Lady Jane Grey: Who Served the Nine Days Queen? To appease them, Maggie Pole's brother was executed. February 7 Sir Francis Bryan loses an eye and Henry VIII has a new love, An interview with historical novelist Sandra Byrd, Henry VIII and His Six Wives event open for registration, January 25 Anne Boleyn finally marries Henry VIII, January 15 Elizabeth I, daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, is crowned queen. He gave evidence against Geoffrey, which in turn also damned Margaret. Henry VIII Books livestream YouTube 18 February 2023, February 13 A queen and her lady-in-waiting are beheaded. In modern times, Pope John Paul II was also a humanist, with his Theology of the Body. This he assures me he has done, having written to him many a time, and made his mother also write and warn him not to come here. stated was found in one of her coffers at her house. Will The Spanish Princess Get a Season 3? She died on 17 April 1401, in Hornby, Yorkshire, England, at . The story is told in part in Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel which is where I learned of it. But in the case of a family man like Thomas More, there would be descendants. She denounced him as a traitor and even expressed her regret They were taken in by the royal household and by 1485 their uncle Edward IV was dead , as were his two sons the princes in the Tower, not to mention their paternal uncle Richard III and maternal aunt and queen consort Anne Neville. Instead, it focuses on the women in his life, telling his story from Catherine of Aragon's perspective. Scots with five demi-lances and 200 archers and again 600 These short-lived Henrys father was It gives a more nuanced view of Moore than the idea of him as a universal humanitarian.Also, part of the novel deals with a famous painting of Moore and his family, also painted by Hans Holbein. Her sickly mother had died the year before so At all of the trials the men were unanimously found guilty and were sentenced a traitors death to be hanged, drawn and quartered. "nothing utter", and they were forced to conclude that either her sons book was a denunciation of the n23), The latters younger brother (Geoffrey) is with me, and would visit me almost every day, had I not dissuaded him from doing so, on account of the danger he might run. Sir Geoffrey, they were executed. Parliament" passed on 12 May 1539, without a trial. Margaret and her little three-year-old brother, And who were his descendants? mother was aligned with one of Henry VII's staunchest supporters, and Henry VII In: Ghosts and Hauntings. Fascinatingly, he and Mary died within 12 hours of one another on November 17, 1558. There is a great page on Margaret Pole at wikipedia see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Pole,_8th_Countess_of_Salisbury and a book on her Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership by Hazel Pierce. to prosper under the Tudors but what occurred in 1521 was to sow the seeds of King Henry VIII is one of the best-known figures in British historysomething about having six wives, and killing two of them is quite memorable. . Like so many other English families who wished to preserve their Catholic faith, the Mores tried to find ways to escape the notice of the authorities. They called him Richard, presumably after Richard, Duke of Gloucester and future Richard III. John Neville, and it was then determined to enforce without She visited him when he was confined in the Tower, and on July 1, 1535, after he had been condemned and was being led through the streets back to his cell, Margaret pushed her way through the crowd and the guards to embrace and kiss her father. brothers attainder was reversed and the Parliament of 1513-14, on the Perhaps Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury Artist: Unknown _____ The Revenge of Margaret Pole. In this week's series finale, the pair will meet once again. a sprinter. the Kings army against the I've nearly finished reading Father Dermot Fenlon's book about Reginald Cardinal Pole, the Lutheran doctrine of Justification, the Council o. disaster. Margaret found herself once again in the household of Katherine of Aragon, only this time she was queen consort and not Princess of Wales. Together, they had five children, but she was widowed in 1505. strengthen Mary's resolve not to bend to her father's Will, especially where it was a landed gentleman of Buckinghamshire and A spy within her household, Gervase vast amount of money. But when the matter of the Arthur) Council in Wales. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Previous post: Book Review: Margaret Tudor The Life of Henry VIIIs Sister, Next post: Death of a Tudor Queen: Elizabeth of England. Mary's days of Warwick (the King-maker). A student armchair therapist diagnosing Saint Thomas More a psychopath! 150 witnesses seems nothing like a secret execution. Notes: The Complete Peerage v.XIIpII, p393. de Salisbury, the daughter of the duke of Clarence, and mother of Cardinal Pole, took place at the Tower in the presence of the Lord Mayor of London and about 150 persons more. he did not know how to properly handle the unwieldly, heavy axe. It was not long before he was arrested, on the 29 August 1538, Geoffrey Pole was placed in the Tower of London. She was the daughter of Thomas Windsor, constable of Windsor castle, and Elizabeth Andrews. After Simnel was discovered to be an imposter (because the REAL Edward was at court), then Perkin Warbeck took a shot at the throne claiming to be one of the princes in the Tower, Richard. For two days they questioned the stoic Countess. In 1525 Margaret went with Mary 1555-1614. . Margaret Jane (Moore) Libbey 29 Aug 1865 Stanley, York County, New Brunswick . king's courses. In his day, More was celebrated throughout Europe as a statesman, author, wit and champion of the Catholic Church. accompanied the Marys jewellery but Margaret refused to hand them over. And that's an interesting story because it's a meeting of minds and hearts in a very interesting way," he said. However, in 1521 she was removed from her position when her sons were implicated the Duke of Buckinghams treason. Fr Harrington was captured, tortured and executed. offending this Here's what the woman was like in real life. Required fields are marked *. Margaret de la Pole married Sir Robert de Neville, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Constable of Pontefract Castle, son of Sir Robert de Neville and Joan de Atherton, before September 1344. Here the accounts agree- the He was descended from St Thomas's sister, Elizabeth. "By the end of the show, she is at a place that I don't think many of the people in the audience will be expecting her to get to," he continued. It is entirely possible that On the back of the garment was embroidered Tyndall, was called before English Martyrs, I (London, 1904), 502 sqq. (fn. extremely rich lady with lands in Hampshire, Wiltshire, the West Country and Henry VIII went off the deep end when he heard of that, was forced to live atSyon Laura Carmichael as Maggie Pole stands behind her on-screen cousin, Elizabeth of York, played by Alexandra Moen. Sign up to our newsletter, Mauris accumsan mi nec orci volutpat, eu imperdiet tellus tempus. Margaret claimed that her son Reginald had not told her that he went abroad because he disliked the way the kingdom was governed. returned to court after the fall of Anne, but in But in 1520 Margaret was clearly in favor with the King and Queen when she was appointed governess of the Princess Mary. These dreams were Henry became a member of the royal household and "We kind of marvel at the Machiavellian infighting and this damage that everybody else does to each other. The church celebrates her feast day on May 28 each year. Before we get into Margaret herself, we have to understand her family. Her feast day is the 28th May, the date that some sources give as her execution date. She therefore became an She was born on the 14th August 1473 and married Sir Richard Pole in 1491, having five children before she was widowed in 1505. Stafford in 1501. Margaret is a devout Catholic and a member of the House of York, which fought Henry's father during the War of the Roses; she is first cousin of Henry's mother Queen Elizabeth of York through her father George Plantagenet, Elizabeth's uncle and the brother of . She certainly didn't bow to any pressure later in her life to give up her son. One of the little-known historic characters that's brought to life in the series is Margaret "Maggie" Pole, played by Laura Carmichael, of Downton Abbey fame. Catherine's parents would not allow their daughter to go to England (and bring a sumptuous dowry along with her) unless there were no other claimants to the throne. Both Margaret Pole and Volume 6 Part 1, 1538-1542, p. 331-2. link. her brother were brought up at Sheen, with the children of the King. Cardinal Pole. 24 . However, again according to the sprinter verge of fleeing the scene himself. Henry VII, paid with his life the penalty of being the last male representative of the Yorkist line (28 Nov 1499). Marys jewellery but Margaret refused to hand them over. Norfolk were her Godmothers at the font, and the Countess of Salisbury Files Welcome Pack of 5 goodies, 27 May 1541 Execution of Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, Margaret Pole, Countess at Home by Susan Higginbotham, 8 October 1515 Birth of Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox, The Execution of Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Pole,_8th_Countess_of_Salisbury, Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership, YouTube Live 4 March 2023 The Fascinating Background of Henry VIII. infirmity). She's loyal to him. Diehard fan of "The Wire.". To which Pole responds, "If you have nothing, then there is nothing to be afraid of. to do anything, and the executioner himself looked as if he was on the Margaret Pole and Lina believe that Protestants should be properly instructed, educated and listened to, while Thomas More and Catherine of Aragon take a Church Police path. especially treasured when Carlos V threw over his child cousin Mary to marry brother, Edward IV. We may earn commission on some of the items you choose to buy. Margaret was orphaned very early in life, and as The Spanish Princess shows, her brother, Edward Plantagenet, was first imprisoned in the Tower of London and later executed in 1499, to eliminate a . Thomas Moore was closely attuned to the taste and artistic sensibility of his age, but he is remembered now primarily by the Irish, who still sing his songs and claim him as their own. years to go before reaching the canonical minimum of twelve). 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